Sunday, December 30, 2012

My horse has intact reproductive organs - should I breed?


*Rant warning*

My horse has intact reproductive organs - should I breed?

Probably not.

See, if you have to ask, that means you probably shouldn't. The only people who should be breeding are those dedicated to improving the quality and standard of horses and breeds. This requires a lifetime of knowledge about what breeding actually involves, the skill to select an acceptable sire and dam, and then the ability to follow through with the required commitment and responsibilities - which, if you are planning on breeding, you should expect to last for the next 30 years.

But....
  • I want to experience having a foal! Well, that foal is going to require a lot of care before it's born and for many years afterward. Talk to a vet - I'm sure they'll help you experience the creation of horsie life.
  • I want to raise my horse from being a baby! Have you considered the risks and expense of doing something like this? What about the time commitment? What if something goes wrong? And when it comes time to train it, do you have experience starting a horse? Can you handle maintaining its training after it's been started? Even if you have the money to send it to the trainer, you will have to be able to handle when your horse conveniently *forgets* its training and you need to give them a refresher. This is critical for youngsters.
  • It'd be cheaper to just breed my horse than buy one! Add up the cost feed, training, farrier costs, vet bils, training, etc. up to when you could consider your horse "broke" - and I think you'll find it's cheaper to buy that already-broke horse.
  • I want to make a business out of this! Horse businesses don't make much money, if any. In fact, there is a specific tax law that says horse businesses can have a loss for more than twice as many years as a regular business and still keep their business tax status. Then, think about the economy - in many places, you can't even give away a good horse anymore.
  • My horse is amazing! To you. But to anyone else looking for a horse, it's just another horse.
  • I'm sure someone will buy the baby! No, you can never be sure. You have to be willing to commit the next 30 years of your life to this baby just in case.
  • I'll keep it its whole life! 30 years is a long time. You dont' know what will happen. If you died tomorrow - what would happen to your precious baby?

And the same goes for those who want to keep their colts studs. Unless you have the qualifications to be a reputable breeder, know what you're doing inside and out, and you're committed to campaigning your stud and making him breed-worthy to others, you don't need a stud. This puts you, the people around your stud, and the stud himself at risk of so many accidents and sad endings. Not to mention the complications of owning a stud...

I'm sorry but if you're asking whether you should be breeding your horse, or whether another horse is a good match for your horse, or if you should keep a horse as a stud, then you dont' have the expertise to be breeding at all.

There are too many good, healthy horses looking for homes to bring another horse into this world. Breeding your horse, for whatever reason, is what contributes to that situation, even if it's just taking away the opportunity for another horse to get adopted because your needlessly-bred baby was chosen over the one in need. Please, just don't do it.

*End rant*


Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/horse-breeding/my-horse-has-intact-reproductive-organs-148212/#ixzz2J3Gn5XBR

Saturday, December 29, 2012

Snickers's conformation

I posted this with a picture of Snickers on HF to see what people could tell me about his conformation.  I was pleasantly surprised by their responses!

I know it's not the best picture, but I'm only looking for a fairly general critique. He's my baby and I love this horse to death - I mainly want to know if there's anything that I need to pay attention to. For instance, I've been told I shouldn't jump him because of his front knees.

I see.... slightly over at the knees, an angular rump, and a parrot mouth with a pretty decent overbite.

What do you see and is there anything that would limit what he can do?

Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/horse-conformation-critique/tell-me-what-you-think-148149/#ixzz2J3J1kASE

Gah more bit uncertainty


I'm really doubting the bit I got is going to work since it's so dang thick. Someone suggested this bit:


I found this one, but I don't want to wait for shipping!  Even though it doesn't say it in the description, the URL indicates this is the exact same bit. I'm really doubting the bit I got is going to work since it's so dang thick. I just don't want to wait for shipping! Ugh. O well, this is the best price I've found (shipping stinks, though) and they have the blanket repair tape that I need to order. What do you think?

Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/horse-tack-equipment/bit-irritation-148001/page2/#ixzz2J3Ddv6SI

Possible solution?

Well, I sold my single-jointed snaffle (I have another one I like better somewhere...) and bought a French Link with the money. At worst, I'll be out the $5 difference. Here's what I got (already attached to my bit hangers for my bridle). 

I'm nervous since we've had so many issues, but I'm hoping it'll work out. Otherwise, I'll test out my friend's Myler and maybe even a mullen mouth. The lady at the tack shop suggested a Sprenger bit, and they're even more expensive than the Mylers. Anybody with experience with these?

This was the only affordable french link I could find (most people around here ride Western, so anything English is hard to get any options with), but I think it might be too thick. It's still a good bit to have regardless, so I won't regret buying it either way.

I guess we'll see how he reacts to it tomorrow, but there's barely any room in that mouth so I don't know if the thickness is going to be a problem.

Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/horse-tack-equipment/bit-irritation-148001/page2/#ixzz2J3DEwwXW

Friday, December 28, 2012

Beet pulp

This thread challenged my previous thoughts about beet pulp and encouraged me to learn more in order to back my point of view - and I did feel that my research ultimately did support my points as well as enlightened me a little more about beet pulp:

Horse not Drinking

and related...

Different types of beet pulp?



Bit irritation

For the short version - My horse is extremely irritated by the bits I've tried on him, and I think it's because they're hitting the roof of his mouth. I got a pretty close look at what was going on in there today with a single-jointed snaffle and a curb with a small/medium port, and I even stuck my fingers in there and got the same reaction when I touched the roof of his mouth as I do with the bit. So now I'm trying to figure out what I should do...

So, now what? I only have single-jointed snaffles and the curb bit, none of which work for him. I wonder if a double-jointed snaffle, like a French Link, would work, or if I'd be better off going with a mullen-mouth. I may be able to borrow a Myler bit sooner or later to see how it works (it's on loan to someone else at the moment), but I'd like to find a cheaper bit if I can.

Any ideas or suggestions here?

***

Now for the long-version with background information, just because I took so long to write it before I realized I could summarize it all in two nice little paragraphs:

My horse has had bit problems since shortly after I got him. I'm not sure if he had them before February, since that's before I bought him, and since he wasn't ridden regularly, I think it took a little bit of regular riding before I realized he was having issues. In other words, he might have always had these issues, but I just didn't recognize them.

What I did recognize was that about a month after I got him and he was getting ridden regularly, he started foaming up each time I put the bit in his mouth. Not the good "oh I like this bit" foaming up, but rather stressed-out-need-to-protect-my-mouth foaming up. It would literally cover his muzzle and drip off his face. It immediately went away, however, as soon as I switched him into a hackamore. Since then, I've moved him in a sidepull, my preferred type of bridle for various reasons, especially since I do endurance and it allows the horse to eat and drink more freely. However, I need to be able to use a bit for training and in other situations in order to communicate clearly.

During the winter, we've been doing some training, but as soon as I put the bit in his mouth, the problems begin. In a single-link snaffle bit, he immediately opens his mouth and pulls his lips back away from the bit. This is before I put any pressure on it at all. When I do put pressure on it, it becomes a battle and he throws his head, sticks it out, pulls down, etc.

At someone's suggestion, I tried a short shanked curb bit with a medium port to prevent any tongue-pinching to occur. When I put the bit in his mouth and let it sit, he did pull back his lips, but not nearly as badly as he did with the snaffle bit. However, when I put any pressure on the bit, he would try to get away from the pressure, open his mouth, and pull back his lips, as well as grind his teeth, but at least it didn't become a head-throwing battle. He just looked and felt very uncomfortable. Today, he didn't pull back his lips at all unless pressure was applied, but it was still just as bad each time I had to put any pressure on the bit.

After riding, I tried to get a good look at what was going on in his mouth. It seems that even the medium port is hitting the roof of his mouth, so he's opening his mouth to get away from it. I stuck my fingers in where the bit and couldn't avoid contact with the roof of his mouth, so I think the roof of his mouth is very low (but I don't have any comparison at the moment, so I'm not sure if all mouths are this low). Then, I put the snaffle back in his mouth. As soon as I put any pressure on it, the joint hit the roof of his mouth (I was pretty sure, but it's quite slobbery in there) and he opened it and pulled back his lips. Finally, I stuck my fingers in there again and bent my knuckles slightly. As soon as they hit the roof of his mouth, I got the same result. In fact, if I just stuck one finger in there and barely touched the roof of his mouth, I got the same reaction. I think I've found the source of my bit woes.

Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/horse-tack-equipment/bit-irritation-148001/#ixzz2J3BuhGaf

Wednesday, December 26, 2012

My new favorite slow feeder!

Thought I'd share with directions (click link for full post). All in all, this cost $44 for the net and lacing (and I have plenty left over to make another), and then however much my friend is going to charge me for the tire, so I'm thinking no more than $75 total for this feeder. So far, I've only fed one bale at a time since I have two horses, but I'm confident I could probably feed two or more, especially since it can go higher than the tire itself and the net holds it in.

I designed this off of the feeders at happygrazers.com since I didn't want to pay $300+ and thought I could make a bigger and better one anyway :P

Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/barn-maintenance/my-new-favorite-feeder-147755/#ixzz2J3L0T6rn

Tuesday, December 25, 2012

Christmas Presents!

I got spoiled 

My husband doesn't ride horses, so he's not very well versed in the selection of horse-related gifts, which is all I want of course. So.... I have the never-ending wishlist on Amazon where he can simply click on the item and it takes him to the website where he can order it!

He really outdid all my expectations this year, when it has been bitter cold and wet. I got:

- Polar fleece Irideon balaclava for keeping my face warm and fits under my helmet
- Extreme winter gloves from Heritage, waterproof
And....
- Ariat waterproof work/riding boots!!

All of which I tested today in the blizzard while I brought 4 horses in, fed, broke and scooped out ice, secured all doors, then fed 2 more horses, gave nutrients, and checked blankets, taking about an hour. I have never enjoyed my chores in the winter so much 

Plus, I got myself one gift: a rain coat for riding that is made to work with the saddle (which I've wanted since riding the last 13 miles of an endurance ride walking in a dounpour this summer). I'm going to be cozy, dry, and warm!!

Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/horse-talk/christmas-presents-147660/page3/#ixzz2J3LYS79x

Monday, December 24, 2012

Soaking beet pulp...


To keep my boy hydrated, I give him soaked beet pulp. I havent been able to lately, but I'm starting back up again, especially with the cold weather and needing to make sure they get enough water. I board, so I decided to put it in my largest water bucket, add water and soak it in the morning, then take it out to him and my other horse in the afternoon. Around 8 this morning is the first time I did it - put about 5 coffee cans of beet pulp pellets (total for both horses) in the bucket (which made for about 2 inches deep of pellets), added 2 coffee cans of triple crown, and then added warm water in the tub for soaking. I checked it periodically to see if there were any hard pellets and added water accordingly. It's just past 11 now, and this is the monster I found in my tub.
I think I'll cut the recipe in half from now on...

Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/endurance-riding/soaking-beet-pulp-147612/#ixzz2J3KQRo34

Sunday, December 23, 2012

Gaping and chewing on the bit


My boy is NOT happy right now in his single-jointed snaffle. As soon as it's in his mouth, he starts gaping wide open and pulling his lips back, and he's frequently chomping on it and pulling on it when we ride. I'm also ending up using harder hands than I'd like just to get his attention as he's running out on me. Part of the running out is because he's had a few months off due to injury, but I'd really like to get him in a bit that he likes and I feel like I can get some response without starting a battle. When he's paying attention, he can be very responsive and I usually like to ride him in a sidepull, but I need a bit for more control especially since we're doing a little re-training at the moment.

I'm assuming the bit is the issue, as he's never been too happy in a bit. Last spring, shortly after I got him, he started foaming up every time I put a bit in his mouth - and we're talking EXCESSIVE foam from stress here. He hasn't had a bit in his mout for about half a year now, but I need to find something that works to get him back to where he used to be and to teach a little more respect and attention.

I'm thinking of getting a French link, but a friend of mine is trying to talk me into a Myler level 2 bit, which I must sounds appealing all up until the price tag. But if that's what it takes, then I guess I'll pay up. I do like the idea of the tongue relief and 3 pieces - anyone have experiences with these? Might it solve my problem?

If there's anything other than the bit that I should check, please let me know :)


Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/horse-training/gaping-chewing-bit-147566/#ixzz2J3LqCeJx

Saturday, November 17, 2012

Correct Movement - Engaging his back

After a 50-miler in July, Snickers came up with a sore back. After time off and trying new saddles, he seemed fine but came up with a sore back at the next ride. The vet and other experienced riders advised me this was probably due to the previous injury not entirely healing up. Some other contributing factors may also be my riding and my boy's movement. 

Now, he's had over 2 months off and we are riding in a different saddle. We are moving soon, and I plan on taking equitation lessons to be improve my riding and his movement. In the meantime, I'm doing my best to pick up nuggets here and there and teach myself. Forgive me if I don't have correct terminology or skills - I was raised riding Western under my dad's instruction and attending 4-H shows, and while I do feel like I'm a pretty good and successful rider, I know there are a lot of things I don't know.

Right now, I mainly want to make sure he's engaging his hind end and raising his back so that he's using his body correctly. After doing some research, I thought it was best to start working "long and low" to get him to collect and round himself up. I recorded myself to get some feedback (click the link for the video) from everyone - this is the first time I've ever approached "collection" from this point of view and with these goals - I was always taught collection was a low head and western-pleasure jog.

Let me know what I can do better, and please let me know if I'm actually doing something right lol. I'm mostly concerned about getting him moving correctly, but anything that might help with my English riding abilities might help, too. Hopefully, it won't be long before I have a trainer to help me in person!

Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/horse-training/correct-movement-engaging-his-back-143910/#ixzz2J3Nh00EB

Friday, November 16, 2012

Winter Fitness

I'm going to do my best to keep up conditioning through the winter, but I'm in the northwest and will likely have to forego usual conditioning, especially when the ground freezes and the snow falls. What do you do to keep up fitness through the winter? Or, do you give them the winter off? When do you begin conditioning again and for how long before your first race of the season (since horses tend to hold their fitness pretty well)? Any change in supplements and feed?

Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/endurance-riding/winter-firtness-143762/#ixzz2J3Ona900

Sore Back :(

My horse has never come up sore - until July when we did our first 50-miler and had to walk the last 13 miles due to rain. He was very sore and we determined this was poor saddle fit (though he didn't even come up sore on the 25-miler I'd done two days earlier...). I gave him about 6 weeks off, then did a little conditioning and tried a few new saddles. We finally found one right before the next ride that seemed to fit him really well but he still came up sore on the 25-miler. In fact, he was extremely sore. We decided that this had more to do with the previous injury not healing up all the way, so his back got re-injured and they said that any saddle I put on him would probably sore up his back.

I was told to stay off him completely for 2 months and I personally decided his endurance season was over until next Spring. I've done so, and now it's time to start working on riding again. Though we're pretty sure this was due to a poorly-fitting saddle, I want to be sure I cover all my bases, so here's my plan and was wondering if anyone else had suggestions or tips:

Get a new saddle that fits him - I'm planning on getting a Specialized saddle once I get the money. In the meantime, I'm only riding short, easy rides and working on fundamentals like collection until I can get a saddle that fits.

Take equitation classes - Though I ride in an English saddle and post, I've never taken actual English lessons. To be sure I'm riding balanced and not doing something in the saddle to cause a sore back, plus just improve my riding and expand my skills, I want to take a few classes.

Strengthen his back - Here's where I'm kind of feeling around in the dark. Someone mentioned he tends to move with a high head, which may be causing him to hallow out his back and contribute to the problem. I'm already working on keeping his head low, but I've seen posts on here about strengthening the top line (by keeping his head low??) and going over cavaletti. I really need help on this one if you have any suggestions 

I'm doing most of my training at a trot, with a little cantering and walking, because that's what we ride at in a race and I seem to understand that's best for strengthening and developing horses anyway. Physically, he looks really good now. He doesn't (and never had) any muscle wasting and finally put the weight on I've been trying to get all year. 2 months off does wonders! However, I'm ready to make sure he's good and ready for next year. Thanks!

Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/horse-health/sore-back-143746/#ixzz2J3OdNgzM

Thursday, July 26, 2012

Miles or wins?


This is the quote that I keep in mind when deciding how I'm going to ride, and I believe it with all my heart:

"There are two kinds of riders - those who compete for miles, and those who compete to win. These are rarely in the same rider."

I'm not necessarily saying one is "right", but you have to decide what your goal is and how you plan to ride.

I, personally, am in awe of Dave Rabe, who I met at the City of Rocks ride. He currently has 55,000 endurance miles and is set to beat the all time record (around 75,000) in a few years. Holy crap! I had the pleasure of seeing exactly how he's managed to get all those miles, and he had a 4-day horse at that ride completing a total of 200 miles in those four days. It was quite inspiring.

I've decided that I'm going to compete for miles. After placing well in the first few LD's I did, I realized I enjoy taking the ride easy and slow, and even getting off and leading and/or tailing in areas. I'm still competitive, so I get to set my goal of getting the turtle. I find it more of a challenge to gain as many miles as possible, but that means I have to pass up some rides until my horse is ready. That's ok - we've got plenty of years ahead of us.

Plus, someday, I may decide to compete to win, but I will likely decide to invest in a top-of-the-line endurance horse bred and trained to win if I want to go that direction.

On the other hand, I can see the appeal to those who compete to win, including the effort they put into their strategy. Those around here that I know at the most competitive levels, including the Tevis, only pick the rides they believe they can win and then go all out. So, they don't get a ton of miles comparatively (at least not on the same horse) since they're not riding every ride and rather putting it all out there on one ride, including skipping the rides they don't think they have the best chances of winning. But, the ones who do it right still have good, sound, healthy horses.

So which are you? Or which do you hope to be?


Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/endurance-riding/miles-wins-132348/#ixzz2J3QaHyYO

Monday, July 16, 2012

Finally a real endurance rider!


We completed our first 50 Saturday! It was completely unplanned, but that is just what we did!

Our first two rides were LD's at Owyhee Fandango and Eagle Spring Fling (both in Idaho), and this ride was our first where we planned to ride multiple days at the City of Rocks ride (on the Utah-Idaho border), a brand new ride this year. On Thursday, I rode with the same person I usually do, but, while we haven't had a ton of issues and no pulls, I wanted to go ahead and ride apart for Saturday's ride (we'd planned on another LD together) due to pacing. My solution? Ride the 50! It was beautiful country and I'd already ridden part of it on the previous ride, so why not? I checked with the vets and other people who know me and my horse, and we got lots of encouragement and confirmation that we should be good to go!

So Saturday I was up bright and early for a 6am start. I wanted to go slow since he's never gone more than maybe 30 miles within a week with conditioning and rides, and now I was asking him to do 75 miles within three days. I set the goal of turtleing and found a great group to ride with to take it slow and they have lots of experience. Snickers was losing his mind at the start since he was leaving his buddy, so we went ahead and rode out to the first trough. By then, he'd gotten over leaving his girlfriend and I got of and waited for my riding partners to catch up. I rode with them for the first loop, which was very steep but absolutely gorgeous! They get off and walk a lot, and I even learned to tail with them - WAY easier than trying to lead a horse uphill! It really makes a huge difference and I really recommend trying it if you have a horse that will do it ;) It saved a lot of energy for Snickers on quite a long climb, and I wasn't even winded even though I was exhausted after attempting to lead him for about 100 feet lol.

The vet check was an out vet check, which was new to me for these two rides. All you really need is horse snacks and hay, people snacks, and a re-supply of water. All packed neatly in a gear bag. Easy!

On the second loop, there was a point where you could see a long way behind you on the trail, Snickers kept stopping and looking back. Turns out there were two more riders behind us! And I wanted that Turtle!! I kept riding with my group since I didn't want to get lost or into trouble, but kept an eye on the riders behind us when they were in sight. About halfway through the second loop, there was a large area where you could see a long ways and the other riders had caught up a little, so I walked and let the two riders behind me catch up. They were quite fun to ride with as well! Unfortunately, about 15 miles out, we got caught in an absolute downpour! We knew the rain was going to come (the ride was changed the day before to avoid getting caught in the highlands in thunder and lightning) and it came right on time. There was one thunderclap that was really close - turns out there were two right in camp that caused all the horses and people to freak out - and Snickers started but got under control right away. After that point, we pretty much walked because of how slippery the mud got. The lady I was riding with even had to take off her Renegade boots because her horse was slipping so much. Her husband rode a little ahead of us, and her horse did a little "jig" trot for a few miles until he came back and rode with us. It was quite funny and very slow, not even really fighting her, but not wanting to walk because his buddy was too far ahead of him!

Well, we finally all made it back safe and sound. I was absolutely soaked as my "rain gear" consisted of a hoodie. At one point just before the finish, it looked like there were two riders still behind us! But there was no way I was waiting for them. Good thing, too, because I ended up getting the turtle after all! (wonder what that was we saw??). Anyway, I had a total blast. I loved riding for the turtle rather than trying to get the best placing we could because I was able to take in the landscape and finally took a ton of pictures of the ride! We hurried where we wanted to, and had more of a "trail ride" when we felt like it. Plus, I was much less worried about vet checks and how Snickers was doing, since he usually pushes through everything and never lets me know when something is wrong (even when his easyboot is hanging off his leg instead of over his foot!). The turtle tiles were way cute, too. I think I'm going to ride 50's and turtle from now on, it was just that much fun :) And now, I'm officially an endurance rider having completed my first 50!

Our next ride will most likely be Old Selam, in the beautiful mountains of New Centerville, Idaho. I'm going to shoot for back-to-back 50's and hopefully get the turtle! In the meantime, I need a new saddle (Snickers got a C at the end on back/whithers and was pretty sore, even though he's always gotten A's before on the 25's) and am probably going to get a ghost treeless saddle so that I don't have to get a new saddle for each horse and every time they change shape. Two weeks off for now, then down to conditioning for back to back 50's! Woot!


Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/endurance-riding/finally-real-endurance-rider-131156/#ixzz2J3Q6e5YB

Sunday, June 3, 2012

First LD Down! (Owyhee Fandango)


Well, we did it! Snickers and I came in 12th out of 14. Tip #1 - get up early and tacked up ASAP so you don't start the race 15 minutes late! Lol everything that could have gone wrong without being absolutely tragic did. It's never rained on that particular race, but we got more rain than they've had in the last 12 months on the day before and day of. Turns out my coat isn't waterproof per say - just thick enough to keep me slightly damp in the 50 degree windy weather all day. Oh, and don't forget your gloves. Even if the weather is in the 80's the whole week before. Take them.

I wasn't sure about riding with another person since we wanted to make sure we went our own pace, but my buddy's QH had a super fast trot and Snickers was extending his/loping to keep up, but apparently we did a good job conditioning and his heartbeat was down each time we came in. It also helped that her horse had to walk every now and then, especially with the mud and hills, so he got a quick rest. If it hadn't been for her and her horse (aka Snickers' new girlfriend who he is absolutely in love with), I'm not sure we would have completed the race, whether it was due to Snickers getting lonely and stressed, making a stupid decision in the mud (two heads are better than one when deciding the pace!), not seeing a ribbon and getting lost, or even not noticing the mud had halfway taken off one of our boots. Snickers sure didn't seem to notice his boot was halfway off as he cruised right along!

Anyway, even after all that, we had a total blast :) Even some of the more experienced riders (most of our club is over 50) said it was the worst conditions they'd ever ridden in, but we didn't have a single pull on our day in any of the races. It can only go up from here! And I am absolutely in love with this sport!


Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/endurance-riding/first-ld-down-125735/#ixzz2J3Pfvj7U

Sunday, April 29, 2012

Volunteering at a Ride (Tough Sucker II)

The best advice I was told before starting into endurance was to volunteer at a ride before I ever entered one. A second person told me that I'd learn 10x more from volunteering at a ride than I ever would riding in a ride. I figured it was a good suggestion, albeit slightly exaggerated... Turns out it wasn't exaggerated even in the slightest.

If you have any interest in getting into endurance riding, I really suggest you do it. It was an absolutely eye opening experience. Here's what I picked up (key words are bolded for what you might be interested in):

Prep for the ride: Get there the night before - there's a dinner and the ride meeting. We didn't make it to this, but that'll have to wait until our actual ride. You can get to know your way around and plan for what is going to happen the next day, as well as receive last minute information about trails, conditions, cautions, etc. What I did get to see was the variety of ways people camped overnight. It was a bit cold, so everyone was in their trailers (I didn't see a single tent). There were high-tyes, portable panel corrals, and portable electric corrals, all of which I expected. My pleasant surprise was the availability to RENT a pen from the ride manager (depending on the ride) - which I plan on doing. Here, they generally charge $5-10/night for renting a pen. When I do get my own trailer, I also plan on making the investment for a portable corral - those things are frikken nifty and many people used the panels along with their truck and trailer hookup to make a nice, big corral for multiple horses.

Start of the Race: There was an area where the water troughs were located, the table for checking in and out, handing over your vet cards, and the vet checks themselves were located. It's also where the start of the ride was. It was pretty low key with a smaller ride (Four 75-milers, fifteen 50-milers, twenty 25-milers). When the time came for the race to start, riders came up, told us their number from their horses, got checked off, and took off. Everyone kind of came up at their own speed when they were ready, though of course there was an initial group that took off right on time. The 75-milers started around 6AM, 50-milers around 7:30am, and 25-milers around 9am. The trail riders took off a while after that. Had you been watching without knowing what was really going on, you'd just have seen a table with some people around it and bunch of riders that came up to the table every now and then to shout their numbers and head down the trail - not exactly how I imagined the beginning of a race. On the LD's, quite a few people left 15-30 minutes after the race had begun!

Then we waited. Here's where I learned SO much - since all the riders were gone, I was able to observe and ask questions about everything I'd seen and wanted to know. The vet was able to answer any questions I had about the vet check and I was walked through the process of taking pulses, recording times, and the things they watched out for. In addition, quite a few people had their gear like boots there, so I was able to see what tack the riders were using, then ask the other volunteers to show me theirs and explain what and why they were using what they were. I also got to hear the types of things said about the riders and their horses, so I could get a 3rd person perspective about how everyone was doing.

Vet Checks and holds: THe manager and other volunteers had a good idea about who would (and should) come in when and told me why they were expecting that. They also told me about what the riders were doing as they approached the vet check area. Most of them walked their horses (and many dismounted) between 200-300 feet away from the vet check to allow their horses to start to come down. Some that weren't in as good of shape dismounted further away. As soon as they got to the vet check, I took their pulse (though some asked me to wait until their horse was done drinking). The people at the table recorded the arrival time, the "down" time (when the horses pulse was down to 60bpm), and then the time that they were able to leave, which was the "down" time plus the hold time. Most of the horses were down already or within 1-2 minutes. A few took 3-6 minutes to come down, and one LD took 19 minutes to come down. You're not pulled from the race as long as you come down within 30 minutes, but generally if it takes 9-10 minutes or longer to come down it's a red flag and the vet will tell you to slow down or another precaution. That rider voluntarily withdrew from the race (they'd gone 17 miles). Of course, this all depends on the horse (the in-shape Arabs with good conditioning and light riders were down almost immediately, one black QH with a heavy rider who doesn't have good balance took 6 minutes to come down, but that's about normal for that horse and just fine - with the Arabs, it would have been a red flag). You HAVE to know your horse, inside and out. Again, I got a running commentary on each horse and how they were doing and why, as well as recommendations for what I should be doing with my boy during conditioning. After pulsing down, they went to their vet check right next to the tables and water, got their scores on their vet card, then went to hang out for their holds.

Vet cards and maps: DON'T loose these! And pay attention to them! And keep them dry!!! We had to replace a handful of lost/ruined vet cards either because something wasn't zipped up, misplaced, or wet from.... well, you can imagine lol. And one rider missed a sign and did an extra 7 miles on one of her loops - she'd been in first for the 50 and went down to last when she came in about an hour and a half after we would have expected her. She wasn't too happy, obviously, though she did go out for the second loop to complete the ride.

End of the race: We stayed until a lot of the LD's had come in, around 2pm, as well as the 50-milers. The LD's have to pulse down at the end of the race, and their placings are determined by the order in which they pulse down - in other words, you cannot run your horse through an LD, come in first, and win. Even if you are the first back and pulse down in time not to be pulled from the race, you may get second or worse if another horse comes in and pulses down before you do. This is to prevent people from running their horses top speed through an LD without proper conditioning. The endurance races (50+) were placed in the order they arrived. Each was asked whether they want to stand for Best Condition (though the vet's wife, who was riding, was not allowed to for obvious reasons), then did their CRI and weighed themselves, which must be done within 10 minutes of completing I believe.

The 75-milers still had another loop to complete (all the rides are completed in loops that come back to the vet check, then head back out again on a different loop). The awards were given at dinner that night, which we weren't there for.

All in all, it seemed the 25-mile LD's were completing in about 5 hours (the results for the Tough Sucker I, a month ago, had the winning time at just over 4 hours), the first 50-milers were coming in at 6.5 hours, and I have no idea how long the 75-milers were taking. This was a bit of a surprise because I was basing "completion time" on our conditioning time and speed. Of course, this also accounts for the 1 hour hold that the LD's and 50-milers had to have (45 min for the 75-milers), so I guess that makes it 25 miles within 3-4 hours riding time, plus the hold.

Anyway, I really recommend that you volunteer before riding, or if you have been riding, do it anyway! Volunteers make the endurance world go round, but you also get the commentary and see the differences between all the riders and horses. So, instead of learning about just ONE endurance ride experience (like I would have if I'd just gone out and done it), I was able to take in experience from 30-40 different riders on the same ride and learn a LOT of invaluable information. And now, I'm ready and confident for our first ride, hopefully next month!!

Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/endurance-riding/volunteering-ride-tough-sucker-ii-121747/#ixzz2J3PDCHGF

Snickers' weight

Since moving to the stall, Snickers has lost a lot of weight.  I don't like how his hip bones stick out and, comparing his pictures from before I got him and even when I got him, he hardly looks the same.  I've been trying various things and talking to people about how to get it back up.  Janet at DA suggested using DAC in my buckets of food as well, but I couldn't find it at the Horse Expo.  Plus, there's so much in his buckets already, I wouldn't want to overload him with nutrients and whatnot.

I was thinking it might be stress.  The weight loss was really obvious after our incident with having to rope him.  Since then, he's calmed down quite a bit in the stall as well as out with me, so hopefully he'll start to bring his weight back up.

He's been getting extra food from the feeders (I think it's 3 flakes, and they feed 2x a day, so 6 flakes total), as well as my buckets of food.  I'm being somewhat more generous with the beet pulp now and have always been with the alfalfa, so hopefully that'll get a little more in him.  He's an excellent eater, with all his food gone within an hour or two, including his buckets.  I never see any hay left on the ground.







I wormed him (and Flash) with Ivermectin shortly after I got him, but I went ahead and wormed him again just in case.  I think it was Zimectrin - either way, it's strong stuff and should take care of just about anything in there.

With all the rain, he's also gotten a bit more of a break instead of putting miles on, even though he's been in the round pen and arena.

He's looking like he's put a little more weight on, but I'm really waiting for that rump to fill in.  His belly is looking good though.  It's just that bony butt of his that bugs me and makes him look very awkward.  He's still doing good on his workouts and is very alert, but we'll see where he goes from here.  Maybe it will just take time.....


Trevor's Offer

Trevor has been making more of an effort to support me with the horses.  When I have to exercise Snickers (but not necessarily ride him, so Trevor can stay with me or nearby the whole time), he's been offering to come out.  He mostly watches, and then helps me with Snickers' buckets, but also asks a lot of questions and interacts with me about the horses.  I asked him (semi jokingly) if he wanted to lead on time, and he said he's not quite there - yet.  He's trying to get more comfortable so that he can actually interact and help me with the horses.

The best news is that Trevor made me an offer!  He said he thinks he'll be ready to learn to ride as soon as Flash is ready.   Which means he bought himself another year, considering Flash is not even green broke yet, much less big enough to carry Trevor.  However, it's an effort and a commitment.  It also gives me the extra encouragement to really make Flash the most excellent horse possible for my hubby :) It's so exciting!


Tough Sucker II

Yesterday I volunteered at the Tough Sucker II - and Trevor came with me :)  We were going to go the night before so we could attend the meeting and camp, but it just turned out to be way to cold, no showers for Trevor, and I ended up wanting a good night sleep after a week of sleep deprivation.  Rather, we left for Oreana around 6:30am and found our way to Regina's (the ride manager) place.  Melba is gorgeous, all green with a river in a valley and the mountains right there :)

We took in the scene when we got there, then went and found Regina to figure out what we were doing.  She was going to have me take pulses and Trevor record in, down, and out times for the riders since he's not a "horse person".  Apparently Trevor thought he'd be following me around all day, not actually put to work.  He was a good sport about it though :)

The 75 and 50-milers had already left, and the LD's were about to leave.  So I did get to see the start of the race, which was way lower key than I'd expected.  Granted, there weren't a TON of people this year, but there were still about 20 people riding in the LD (15 in the 50 and 4 in the 75, though a few had to drop out because of injuries before the race).  I think Snickers will do just fine :)

As we were sitting there, there was a very familiar chestnut getting ready to go out a bit later than everyone else.  The horses' conformation, size, color, markings, attitude, and behavior were almost identical to Snickers'.  Turns out it was his half brother!  The horse was a year younger than Snickers and it was really interesting to talk to the owner about the two. We'll have to ride together sometime :)  I saw on the SWIT&DR emails that she had won the Tough Sucker I LD with a "Gold N....", so it was exciting to see the horse and rider in person.  However, from a few comments made and from her overall behavior, she's not necessarily someone I would trust to mentor me with endurance or would take advice from.  Plus, and it may have just been from the race, but the way she was talking about him and watching him seemed like he was where Snickers was a while ago.  She's had the horse for a year, but it doesn't seem like there's been a lot of progress made with him, though she bought him with no training and was taking him out to Spencers.  On the other hand, Snickers has come so far and learned so much in the last 3 months that I've been with him - and have owned him for less than that.  We've worked through pretty much all of his major issues.  He can still be a nutcase at times, but for the most part he works though it and is quite a lovely horse that I'm very proud of and can even look very professional in my opinion.  But like I said, maybe it's just the race...

We stayed until a fair amount of the LD's had finished as I wanted to see a race from start to finish, so we left around 2.  In that time, I learned a LOT about what I need to be doing with Snickers - I have no doubt that what I was told about volunteering at a ride first was absolutely true.  I feel much more confident in knowing what I need to do to prepare and how the race will go.  Here are some of the nuggets I picked up:

Pulsing down:  It all depends on the horse.  You may not be pulled from the race as long as you pulse down within the 30 minutes after you get back, but if it takes you even 10 minutes to pulse down, then you're in trouble.  You probably need to be riding slower.  Rather, most of the horses walk the last 200-300 ft and were already pulsed down (60bpm) by the time they reached the vet check.  Some walked further, many got off for that part, but some also trotted all the way up and only stopped trotting and got off when they reached the vet check.  Even so, may were pulsed down when the reached the vet check, and the rest pulsed down within 2 minutes, sometimes 3.  It was rare for them to take much longer - a couple took 5-6 minutes, but that was because they were heavier muscled quarter horses, black, carrying heavier riders, and the rider couldn't balance themselves as well.  One horse took 19 minutes, and was pulled from the race (voluntarily I believe).  What I need to be doing:  Walk the last stretch before I reach the first gate on the way back, then get off and take his pulse.  It should be close to 60bpm, and if it isn't there yet, I need to stay there and wait until it reaches that.  Many times, if the horses were around 72 bpm, I was able to keep the stethoscope on their chests and wait until they came down, not taking breaks in between.  I was a little worried about that, but I did this yesterday after a 7 mile run (all at a medium trot), and he came right down within a minute or two, just like the well-conditioned horses :)

Boots - A lot of people wear them, a lot of people don't and might wear shoes or even go barefoot.  I don't know whether they put boots on later, but I saw quite a few taking off barefoot.  I'm still planning on getting Easyboot Gloves, and Beth is coming this week to trim and fit my boys.

Vet Checks and Best Condition - It's hard to really describe the process, but it looks a lot less stressful than I was expecting, especially if you don't come in with a huge group.

Electrolytes and other supplements - Not a lot of people give electrolytes, but some do.  I'm not going to worry about it.  I did see one person giving their horse some of the beet pulp and bran mixes that I do daily, but I'm sure more people did it at their trailers.

Overnight setup - I really like the portable corrals, but they cost $750 (They were at the same booth as the rope halter stuff at the Horse Expo).  Those are probably the best, followed by the high-ties connected to the trailer.  Unfortunately, that's not an option for me since I don't have my own trailer, though I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be with Snickers tied with how much he can move around and get excited.  There were a few people with a portable electric fence set up, but I still don't know how comfortable and competent I'd really feel with those.  The best news, at least for now, is that the main managers here actually rent out pens, and that's what I think I will do for our first ride in May.  They're pretty cheap - yay!

Trevor helped with the first horse coming in for their vet check on the 75 and then hung out for a while, but it was pretty cold and he was tired, so he stayed in the car for pretty much the rest of the morning.  I really appreciated the effort he was making and he wasn't complaining at all, so even though he stayed in the car, I was really appreciated it - especially since it was the beginning of the NBA playoffs :S.  All the other people there were really impressed with how much he was supporting me and being a good sport.  He did come out to take a few pictures for me, though.  He said he'll be more engaged when he's more comfortable with the horses, but he was really a good sport about the whole thing.  I have an amazing husband :)

So anyway, it was an exciting day and I learned so much!  I absolutely agree that, if you want to do endurance, definitely volunteer at a ride first.  It went by really fast and I learned a ton!  And now, I'm ready to ride!!





This is what I wrote on Horseforum.com:

The best advice I was told before starting into endurance was to volunteer at a ride before I ever entered one. A second person told me that I'd learn 10x more from volunteering at a ride than I ever would riding in a ride. I figured it was a good suggestion, albeit slightly exaggerated... Turns out it wasn't exaggerated even in the slightest.

If you have any interest in getting into endurance riding, I really suggest you do it. It was an absolutely eye opening experience. Here's what I picked up (key words are bolded for what you might be interested in):

Prep for the ride: Get there the night before - there's a dinner and the ride meeting. We didn't make it to this, but that'll have to wait until our actual ride. You can get to know your way around and plan for what is going to happen the next day, as well as receive last minute information about trails, conditions, cautions, etc. What I did get to see was the variety of ways people camped overnight. It was a bit cold, so everyone was in their trailers (I didn't see a single tent). There were high-tyes, portable panel corrals, and portable electric corrals, all of which I expected. My pleasant surprise was the availability to RENT a pen from the ride manager (depending on the ride) - which I plan on doing. Here, they generally charge $5-10/night for renting a pen. When I do get my own trailer, I also plan on making the investment for a portable corral - those things are frikken nifty and many people used the panels along with their truck and trailer hookup to make a nice, big corral for multiple horses.

Start of the Race: There was an area where the water troughs were located, the table for checking in and out, handing over your vet cards, and the vet checks themselves were located. It's also where the start of the ride was. It was pretty low key with a smaller ride (Four 75-milers, fifteen 50-milers, twenty 25-milers). When the time came for the race to start, riders came up, told us their number from their horses, got checked off, and took off. Everyone kind of came up at their own speed when they were ready, though of course there was an initial group that took off right on time. The 75-milers started around 6AM, 50-milers around 7:30am, and 25-milers around 9am. The trail riders took off a while after that. Had you been watching without knowing what was really going on, you'd just have seen a table with some people around it and bunch of riders that came up to the table every now and then to shout their numbers and head down the trail - not exactly how I imagined the beginning of a race. On the LD's, quite a few people left 15-30 minutes after the race had begun!

Then we waited. Here's where I learned SO much - since all the riders were gone, I was able to observe and ask questions about everything I'd seen and wanted to know. The vet was able to answer any questions I had about the vet check and I was walked through the process of taking pulses, recording times, and the things they watched out for. In addition, quite a few people had their gear like boots there, so I was able to see what tack the riders were using, then ask the other volunteers to show me theirs and explain what and why they were using what they were. I also got to hear the types of things said about the riders and their horses, so I could get a 3rd person perspective about how everyone was doing.

Vet Checks and holds: THe manager and other volunteers had a good idea about who would (and should) come in when and told me why they were expecting that. They also told me about what the riders were doing as they approached the vet check area. Most of them walked their horses (and many dismounted) between 200-300 feet away from the vet check to allow their horses to start to come down. Some that weren't in as good of shape dismounted further away. As soon as they got to the vet check, I took their pulse (though some asked me to wait until their horse was done drinking). The people at the table recorded the arrival time, the "down" time (when the horses pulse was down to 60bpm), and then the time that they were able to leave, which was the "down" time plus the hold time. Most of the horses were down already or within 1-2 minutes. A few took 3-6 minutes to come down, and one LD took 19 minutes to come down. You're not pulled from the race as long as you come down within 30 minutes, but generally if it takes 9-10 minutes or longer to come down it's a red flag and the vet will tell you to slow down or another precaution. That rider voluntarily withdrew from the race (they'd gone 17 miles). Of course, this all depends on the horse (the in-shape Arabs with good conditioning and light riders were down almost immediately, one black QH with a heavy rider who doesn't have good balance took 6 minutes to come down, but that's about normal for that horse and just fine - with the Arabs, it would have been a red flag). You HAVE to know your horse, inside and out. Again, I got a running commentary on each horse and how they were doing and why, as well as recommendations for what I should be doing with my boy during conditioning. After pulsing down, they went to their vet check right next to the tables and water, got their scores on their vet card, then went to hang out for their holds.

Vet cards and maps: DON'T loose these! And pay attention to them! And keep them dry!!! We had to replace a handful of lost/ruined vet cards either because something wasn't zipped up, misplaced, or wet from.... well, you can imagine lol. And one rider missed a sign and did an extra 7 miles on one of her loops - she'd been in first for the 50 and went down to last when she came in about an hour and a half after we would have expected her. She wasn't too happy, obviously, though she did go out for the second loop to complete the ride.

End of the race: We stayed until a lot of the LD's had come in, around 2pm, as well as the 50-milers. The LD's have to pulse down at the end of the race, and their placings are determined by the order in which they pulse down - in other words, you cannot run your horse through an LD, come in first, and win. Even if you are the first back and pulse down in time not to be pulled from the race, you may get second or worse if another horse comes in and pulses down before you do. This is to prevent people from running their horses top speed through an LD without proper conditioning. The endurance races (50+) were placed in the order they arrived. Each was asked whether they want to stand for Best Condition (though the vet's wife, who was riding, was not allowed to for obvious reasons), then did their CRI and weighed themselves, which must be done within 10 minutes of completing I believe.

The 75-milers still had another loop to complete (all the rides are completed in loops that come back to the vet check, then head back out again on a different loop). The awards were given at dinner that night, which we weren't there for.

All in all, it seemed the 25-mile LD's were completing in about 5 hours (the results for the Tough Sucker I, a month ago, had the winning time at just over 4 hours), the first 50-milers were coming in at 6.5 hours, and I have no idea how long the 75-milers were taking. This was a bit of a surprise because I was basing "completion time" on our conditioning time and speed. Of course, this also accounts for the 1 hour hold that the LD's and 50-milers had to have (45 min for the 75-milers), so I guess that makes it 25 miles within 3-4 hours riding time, plus the hold.

Anyway, I really recommend that you volunteer before riding, or if you have been riding, do it anyway! Volunteers make the endurance world go round, but you also get the commentary and see the differences between all the riders and horses. So, instead of learning about just ONE endurance ride experience (like I would have if I'd just gone out and done it), I was able to take in experience from 30-40 different riders on the same ride and learn a LOT of invaluable information. And now, I'm ready and confident for our first ride, hopefully next month!!

Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/endurance-riding/volunteering-ride-tough-sucker-ii-121747/#ixzz1tSVproDp

Horse Expo

On April 22, I volunteered at the Diabetes Ride booth, shared with SWIT&DR, at the Horse Expo.  I let them borrow my computer and monitor to show videos from the rides and a slide show - it turns out I probably should have been there from the beginning because I had to work out some technical stuff to get it to work smoothly, like turning off the sleep feature and putting the video on loop.  It went by pretty fast, especially since I got to wander around and look at stuff.  I wanted to find some DAC to help with Snickers gaining weight, but didn't see it. Instead, a booth selling rope and books on how to make your own halters caught my eye, and I got a lot of info.  I also got in trouble taking pictures of the decorative knots done on the nose, which weren't in the book, so that I could replicate them.  The guy said pretty sternly that I really should ask before I take pictures, but let me continue to take them anyway.  Meh, I bought $60 worth of rope and books on how to make the halters for Snicker and Flash, so I think we're good.  The halters were pretty easy and fun to make (of course, I'm the little girl who made all those friendship bracelets years ago, so I'd love this!) and I've received lots of compliments for them.  I'm going to try to make custom halters for people around here if I can get enough intrest.  That would be a fun thing to do to make money :)

I got to talk to a lot of the other SWIT&DR people, including Sandy's husband.  Turns out, there are a bunch of rednecks out further east of Dusty Acres, where I haven't made it to just yet, that will shoot first and ask questions later, so I'm going to have to take a little extra precaution if I do venture any further.  He basically said I needed to make sure I don't go through any shut gates out there, and avoid areas where there's any Confederate or US flags hung upside down.... weird.

Naked Flash!

So Flash's fluffball of hair kept on shedding and shedding, with hair going EVERYWHERE and getting all over EVERYTHING (one time, Trevor even saw a hair on the table while eating dinner lol).  Of course, this did *wonderful* things for my allergies.  I really didn't see brushing him as any solution because I couldn't do it very long and never seemed to make much difference.  So, after seeing Crystal shave her horses out at Dusty Acres, I decided I was going to shave my snowball of a horse.

I borrowed my dad's clippers and bought some oil for them and I was off.  When I first turned the clippers on, Flash was quite weary of them and backed off.  However, I had my trusty clicker handy and ready, and after a click or two he was ready to go.  He stood really well :)  Unfortunately, the clippers stopped working 2/3 of the way through my horse!  It was really stressful because I didn't want to bring broken clippers back to my dad and Flash looked quite ridiculous.  However, deciding it must be a dull blade, I had to put him back and come back the next day.  This whole ordeal prevented me from riding, unfortunately, and it resulted in a pretty frustrating day :(  I had Snickers tied up the whole time, which was a couple of hours, to teach him patience.  He seemed to calm down after a while, though got all excited again as soon as he saw Flash walk by.

So then the next day I picked up a new blade ($40! but dad is going to pay for half).  It worked wonderfully, and soon I had a naked horse :)  His hair isn't THAT much darker :S (I was hoping for a horse that looked more like a palomino when I was done), but it's getting there.  You can see darker spots where he's had his nips and whatnot, so I know it'll get darker.  It wasn't a very pretty job shaving, as Trevor pointed out, but it's functional, and I got his bridle path done as well (I didn't bother trying to work on that with Snickers...).  The next couple of days were going to be in the 80's and even low 90's - I believe we set a few heat records - so I'm glad he got all that hair off.  Unfortunately, our wonderful Idaho weather dropped down to have lows in the 30's the following week, but he's ok.

Well, I don't sneeze anymore!  And he does seem to be a bit darker now, as his coat is growing out.  It can only get darker from now.  But I'm so glad I don't have to worry about all that hair anymore :)

Before I shaved Flash:


Halfway done:




My blade went dull!!


Back in the pasture to try again tomorrow....


Day 2 (before):



After!  All done!